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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I went and searched for New Age Power Brokers in Google and the domain with that name appears to be taken over by a vitamin company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I went and searched for New Age Power Brokers in Google and the domain with that name appears to be taken over by a vitamin company.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Crable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Crable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like more info on the opp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like more info on the opp.</p>
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		<title>By: Arvie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arvie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was with New Age for several months.  Signed up several accounts, had a group of over 30 people working down line.  My problem was, they took my monthly web access fees but I never got a single dime in commissions from them.  They would not return my phone calls and would not respond to my emails.  I did file a complaint with the AG office to no avail.  These guys are master of deception.  It is a MLM, do not let anyone tell you otherwise.  The commissions are based on how far down the line someone is as to what you earn from your group.  I am now a broker with my own business and I make more on one nice account per month than I could earn in a year on that account with New Age.   They were saying they paid 40% on 3 mils commission.   That is 1.2 mils.  they were getting paid 5 mils.  Guess where the money was going.   They kept laying it off on the computer system for not paying.  I have a little knowledge of computers and have a friend that is a programmer.  If that was the problem they should have fired their webmaster and got someone that knows what to do.   This is a ripoff.   All you who are selling for them look into doing your own thing or contact me and I pay 80% commission and help with leads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was with New Age for several months.  Signed up several accounts, had a group of over 30 people working down line.  My problem was, they took my monthly web access fees but I never got a single dime in commissions from them.  They would not return my phone calls and would not respond to my emails.  I did file a complaint with the AG office to no avail.  These guys are master of deception.  It is a MLM, do not let anyone tell you otherwise.  The commissions are based on how far down the line someone is as to what you earn from your group.  I am now a broker with my own business and I make more on one nice account per month than I could earn in a year on that account with New Age.   They were saying they paid 40% on 3 mils commission.   That is 1.2 mils.  they were getting paid 5 mils.  Guess where the money was going.   They kept laying it off on the computer system for not paying.  I have a little knowledge of computers and have a friend that is a programmer.  If that was the problem they should have fired their webmaster and got someone that knows what to do.   This is a ripoff.   All you who are selling for them look into doing your own thing or contact me and I pay 80% commission and help with leads.</p>
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		<title>By: Glacial Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glacial Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 07:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a &quot;BDM&quot; with Glacial I signed up several friends and family in PA and saw invoices at 14.2 cents this year vs. the quoted rate of 7.7, 7.8, 7.9 etc...

I will make Glacial Energy PAY for SCAMMING my friends and family. I work for Glacial Energy and broker for Gexa and Washington Gas. Every account that I heard was a customer of Glacial I am calling on them and switching them over and telling them that they were scammed. 

I still work for Glacial Energy and will try to waste as much time and resources of theirs as I can. Pamphlets = I threw them away. Ink Cartridges = now empty. Expense account = maxed. 

When they fire me I&#039;ll threaten to contact the utility service commission. and force a severence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a &#8220;BDM&#8221; with Glacial I signed up several friends and family in PA and saw invoices at 14.2 cents this year vs. the quoted rate of 7.7, 7.8, 7.9 etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I will make Glacial Energy PAY for SCAMMING my friends and family. I work for Glacial Energy and broker for Gexa and Washington Gas. Every account that I heard was a customer of Glacial I am calling on them and switching them over and telling them that they were scammed. </p>
<p>I still work for Glacial Energy and will try to waste as much time and resources of theirs as I can. Pamphlets = I threw them away. Ink Cartridges = now empty. Expense account = maxed. </p>
<p>When they fire me I&#8217;ll threaten to contact the utility service commission. and force a severence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellen asked Shawn if a lesson was learned yet.  I have learned mine and so have my Glacial customers.  Glacial brings another option to the table in deregulated states and in doing so gives the customer another viable option in making their own decision on what supplier is good for them.  A whole lot better than a mandated, single source utility.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen asked Shawn if a lesson was learned yet.  I have learned mine and so have my Glacial customers.  Glacial brings another option to the table in deregulated states and in doing so gives the customer another viable option in making their own decision on what supplier is good for them.  A whole lot better than a mandated, single source utility.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iluvmycustomers,

who do you work with now and how can I get in touch with you?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iluvmycustomers,</p>
<p>who do you work with now and how can I get in touch with you?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Charly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference in working for a company with a tier of executives and a MLM is MISS leading in your example...may we call you, Miss Leading...likewise? 
   Corporations do not CHARGE PEOPLE for the privilege of joining their elite sales club.  Yes you may have some fees for Head Hunters finding you a high level corporate job, but that typically does not apply to the mail room, janitorial, secretarial... and most positions, and definitely, it is not mandatory, to buy your way into the work place. 
   MLM&#039;s feed like a frenzy on getting these sign on fees that feed the up-line and most usually, this is the explosive pyramid that is created out of people that sell little real product and collect people that are not really... indoctrinated into the &quot;fantastic&quot;  success of a unrealized climb up this steep ladder. It&#039;s much more like a success &quot;MEGA BUCKS LOTTO&quot;  If you are lucky you get a little sales material, book in a big, fancy, padded box or your own web site that costs you $25. a month.  Then, this hollow shell...implodes or at the least leave a blood trail of common folks with no other success notions.  Amway, once Americas very biggest lobbyist to Congress was built on these little sales kits of millions of people who now don&#039;t even use the products now, if they ever did... yet paid the up-liner some dear money for the fantastic dream of success...more like a state Mega Bucks Loto ticket with nearly the same odds of being a winner.  Let&#039;s see... there were also the Phone Card MLM&#039;s, Water Filters like NSA...Acronym: &quot;Never Sold Any&quot;...and tons more all walking that fine line of... are we selling anything or just selling lotto tickets to fantasy......but, I will also be a bit more honest here and say that some MLM&#039;s do walk a little closer to actually selling,  SOMETHING !!   Mary K,   AVON...will probably slug along forever due to devoted makeup users not wanting to ever change and wow...THAT PINK CAR ohh baby!!! Now the latest, greatest MLM&#039;s selling something you dont SEE, Smell or even have to stock....Deregulated Electricity and sometimes Gas to our homes, businesses...  Here we do at least have a bit of a chance to start a small business with something everyone needs, usually keeps loyal to, we don&#039;t have to stock or deliver anything.... and thus the emphasis is quite a bit easier to sell SOMETHING and not just collect more fantasy suckers....perhaps there is a bit of hope in this for the common person wanting a business, but just having not one other idea or skill to start one...maybe just selling some hope...is a social service here !  
But again here what we are mostly selling is the customer service that counts how much you use, delivers your bills, accountability.....Can they be reached if there is a problem with your account and hopefully honest enough to give you the bottom KiloWattPerHour cost to you with line loss and admin fees all inclusive...nothing hidden and will the company doing the admin actually be in America, hiring Americans withing it&#039;s own shores? Should you need to contact someone at the office with a problem...hopefully it is easier than sending a Pigeon with a note towards the Moon....
  So perhaps you should fling a more informed and honest tale here, before you start slinging  just more poo poo around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference in working for a company with a tier of executives and a MLM is MISS leading in your example&#8230;may we call you, Miss Leading&#8230;likewise?<br />
   Corporations do not CHARGE PEOPLE for the privilege of joining their elite sales club.  Yes you may have some fees for Head Hunters finding you a high level corporate job, but that typically does not apply to the mail room, janitorial, secretarial&#8230; and most positions, and definitely, it is not mandatory, to buy your way into the work place.<br />
   MLM&#8217;s feed like a frenzy on getting these sign on fees that feed the up-line and most usually, this is the explosive pyramid that is created out of people that sell little real product and collect people that are not really&#8230; indoctrinated into the &#8220;fantastic&#8221;  success of a unrealized climb up this steep ladder. It&#8217;s much more like a success &#8220;MEGA BUCKS LOTTO&#8221;  If you are lucky you get a little sales material, book in a big, fancy, padded box or your own web site that costs you $25. a month.  Then, this hollow shell&#8230;implodes or at the least leave a blood trail of common folks with no other success notions.  Amway, once Americas very biggest lobbyist to Congress was built on these little sales kits of millions of people who now don&#8217;t even use the products now, if they ever did&#8230; yet paid the up-liner some dear money for the fantastic dream of success&#8230;more like a state Mega Bucks Loto ticket with nearly the same odds of being a winner.  Let&#8217;s see&#8230; there were also the Phone Card MLM&#8217;s, Water Filters like NSA&#8230;Acronym: &#8220;Never Sold Any&#8221;&#8230;and tons more all walking that fine line of&#8230; are we selling anything or just selling lotto tickets to fantasy&#8230;&#8230;but, I will also be a bit more honest here and say that some MLM&#8217;s do walk a little closer to actually selling,  SOMETHING !!   Mary K,   AVON&#8230;will probably slug along forever due to devoted makeup users not wanting to ever change and wow&#8230;THAT PINK CAR ohh baby!!! Now the latest, greatest MLM&#8217;s selling something you dont SEE, Smell or even have to stock&#8230;.Deregulated Electricity and sometimes Gas to our homes, businesses&#8230;  Here we do at least have a bit of a chance to start a small business with something everyone needs, usually keeps loyal to, we don&#8217;t have to stock or deliver anything&#8230;. and thus the emphasis is quite a bit easier to sell SOMETHING and not just collect more fantasy suckers&#8230;.perhaps there is a bit of hope in this for the common person wanting a business, but just having not one other idea or skill to start one&#8230;maybe just selling some hope&#8230;is a social service here !<br />
But again here what we are mostly selling is the customer service that counts how much you use, delivers your bills, accountability&#8230;..Can they be reached if there is a problem with your account and hopefully honest enough to give you the bottom KiloWattPerHour cost to you with line loss and admin fees all inclusive&#8230;nothing hidden and will the company doing the admin actually be in America, hiring Americans withing it&#8217;s own shores? Should you need to contact someone at the office with a problem&#8230;hopefully it is easier than sending a Pigeon with a note towards the Moon&#8230;.<br />
  So perhaps you should fling a more informed and honest tale here, before you start slinging  just more poo poo around.</p>
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		<title>By: iluvmycustomers</title>
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		<dc:creator>iluvmycustomers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hired in May 2007 to help Glacial Energy open up MD.  They recruited me from an energy broker, so I had some experience in the industry.  I was definitely leary about their quoted savings percent, which at the time was 30%, but, hey, they were paying me a good base salary, and I was naive, so I went out and sold it.  Then I asked to get my customer&#039;s bills to  make sure I would end up with egg on my face.  Well, guess what?  My customers were being charged MORE than the utility rate, not just a little, but alot.  I asked my manager about it, and he solved the problem by ordering our billing reps not to send me any more of my customer&#039;s bills and screaming at me for hours.   I work for an energy consultancy now.  We regularly run  up against unhappy Glacial Energy customers.  The company doesn&#039;t have financials, no CFO, and makes up rates as they go along.  Their variable rate is a pass through of everything, which is not an &#039;all-in&#039; rate, as they present it to unknowing prospects.  They&#039;re also paying their agents huge upfront fees (in the thousands of dollars) to get them into trade associations, chambers of commerce, fleecing their customers, protecting a few.  They actually have an employee who&#039;s job it is to scouring the internet every day, looking for complaints and bad press, then countering them posing as happy customers.   They&#039;ve been poisoning the electric market for a while, and now they&#039;re poisoning the gas market.  Their owner, Gary Mole, financed his $50 million personal jet on the backs of Glacial Energy&#039;s customers.  Their headquarters are in the Virgin Islands so they don&#039;t have to pay taxes in the  U.S.

I cannot wait until they finally go out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hired in May 2007 to help Glacial Energy open up MD.  They recruited me from an energy broker, so I had some experience in the industry.  I was definitely leary about their quoted savings percent, which at the time was 30%, but, hey, they were paying me a good base salary, and I was naive, so I went out and sold it.  Then I asked to get my customer&#8217;s bills to  make sure I would end up with egg on my face.  Well, guess what?  My customers were being charged MORE than the utility rate, not just a little, but alot.  I asked my manager about it, and he solved the problem by ordering our billing reps not to send me any more of my customer&#8217;s bills and screaming at me for hours.   I work for an energy consultancy now.  We regularly run  up against unhappy Glacial Energy customers.  The company doesn&#8217;t have financials, no CFO, and makes up rates as they go along.  Their variable rate is a pass through of everything, which is not an &#8216;all-in&#8217; rate, as they present it to unknowing prospects.  They&#8217;re also paying their agents huge upfront fees (in the thousands of dollars) to get them into trade associations, chambers of commerce, fleecing their customers, protecting a few.  They actually have an employee who&#8217;s job it is to scouring the internet every day, looking for complaints and bad press, then countering them posing as happy customers.   They&#8217;ve been poisoning the electric market for a while, and now they&#8217;re poisoning the gas market.  Their owner, Gary Mole, financed his $50 million personal jet on the backs of Glacial Energy&#8217;s customers.  Their headquarters are in the Virgin Islands so they don&#8217;t have to pay taxes in the  U.S.</p>
<p>I cannot wait until they finally go out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawn,

If you went to work for them, did you learn your lesson yet?

R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawn,</p>
<p>If you went to work for them, did you learn your lesson yet?</p>
<p>R</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 00:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glacial is a scam. Their quotes are based on small adders and then they jack up the prices. Once customers are on the plan for 6 months they figure that they are asleep at the wheel and raise rates to over 15 cents in many cases. When they complain the rates come down and when they cancel we smack them with extremely high rates. 

I used to work in the main office in the Virgin Islands and the motto by the leadership was &quot;let&#039;s squeeze them for every last dollar.&quot; The leaders have no college education and no morals. 

If you sign up with them they will do everything possible to extract every penny from your bank account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glacial is a scam. Their quotes are based on small adders and then they jack up the prices. Once customers are on the plan for 6 months they figure that they are asleep at the wheel and raise rates to over 15 cents in many cases. When they complain the rates come down and when they cancel we smack them with extremely high rates. </p>
<p>I used to work in the main office in the Virgin Islands and the motto by the leadership was &#8220;let&#8217;s squeeze them for every last dollar.&#8221; The leaders have no college education and no morals. </p>
<p>If you sign up with them they will do everything possible to extract every penny from your bank account.</p>
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