Family Wants Me To Sign Up With Ignite Energy?
Ignite Energy like most MLM opportunities is one of those things you eventually will hear from a family, friend, neighbor, or complete stranger. This energy company started up here in Texas by a very smart and creative marketer and he brought on some key players from the now bankrupt Vartec\Excel Telecommunications MLM business. This new Multi-Level Marketing Company called Ignite quickly organized meetings throughout the state that are much like going to a church where the sermon is about an amazing money making opportunity.
The Hit TV Show Office Makes a Funny Yet Solid Point About MLM Schemes
If you haven’t seen the show, “The Office” you need to as it is the funniest show I have ever seen. One of The Office episodes makes a great point about MLM opportunities like Ignite. Michael Scott, the office manager at Dunder Mifflin tries to recruit his employees into joining an MLM scheme that he claims is not a pyramid. Check it out. I am sure you will likely laugh even if you do love the idea of the Ignite Energy opportunity.
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Ignite Top Money Earners
Several top money earners rolled over from Excel into the Ignite Energy opportunity. These key money makers also had that charisma to head up and lead the meetings and inject the needed energy into the new representatives throughout the state of Texas trying to cash in on Texas electricity deregulation. The meetings have been a success and now it is hard to travel through a town in Texas without seeing an Ignite magnetic sticker on the side of someone’s car. Unlike Mary Kay, Avon, and Quickstar there is no inventory to hold on to and then turn around and sell. This means the capital investment in the opportunity is small. For many, this lure of a low cost low maintenance business is what draws them in. The residual money is paid out to sponsors on several levels as overrides from the sales of the representatives underneath them grow larger. A small percentage of income paid residually from each rep underneath you could amount to tens of thousands of dollars a month. The problem is that the way it normally happens you will have a rep you sponsor into the business and they will usually sign up about 1 friend and 2 - 3 family members as residential electricity customers and that will be about it. The rep is required to pay their yearly membership dues to stay in the business and if they sponsor someone they will get a large payment for this. The rep ends up making more money by sponsoring someone then they will from the electric customers they or their reps gather. The ones who make overrides from those they sponsor are the ones who sign up multiple reps and see to it that they get their minimum sales quota that is required for both them and the sponsor to make the residual money off of.
Charismatic MLM Evangelists Travel Like A Tent Miracle Meeting Worker
The go getters in the Ignite business opportunity end up becoming a charismatic character that new comers begin drooling over and driving far and wide just to hear how they made it big in the MLM opportunity. This charismatic MLM’er is the one that makes the big money by gaining large crowds and creating that momentum that will drive his sales force into signing up more reps and customers into the business. He remains the top dog while his followers barely manage to meet their sales quotas. That is ok for the big guy as he gets large overrides on each rep that signs up in the opportunity even if only a few customers are signed up. This means that the newcomer signs up his family and friends and the sponsor leader receives a big check for the new representative joining the business. As the MLM business grows and you analyze the sales commissions you notice that most of the money being generated is from reps joining the business rather then energy customers signing up for home or commercial electricity. Building a large congregation to help spread the miracle of MLM by word of mouth is the goal and serves the MLM evangelist by creating the same enthusiasm of a fake miracle worker bringing in large offerings.
How Do The Real Money Makers Make It Big?
Next time you are asked to join an “opportunity” be sure to pay close attention to how the real money makers make their money. They are not sitting idly by as the money flows in. They are the charismatic leaders up on stage that travels the roads of Texas in a tour van as if living it up like a rock n’ roll rock star. Whether or not these guys are raking it in yet is beside the point. They fake it til’ they make it and reap the rewards with the less charismatic passerby’s never realizing the difference. Once the MLM Company goes bankrupt the big guys move on to the next biggest and best MLM opportunity on the scene.
Should I Join The Ignite MLM Company?
If you truly must join the Ignite Energy opportunity you will want to take a survey of what is at stake. Will you be ok if 10 years down the road the business is bankrupt and you lose all your residual income? Are you willing to start working as a traveling salesman? All the big money makers travel throughout the state promoting the business. Do you realize the opportunity takes really hard work and a natural ability to be outspoken and zealous about the business to anybody and everybody? Are you prepared to go in it realizing most of the people you talk into the business will be wasting their money so you can get paid? Statistically only the leaders make the money while the grunts that sign up their friends and family and stay home are basically making money for the leader. If you are the type to go out and spread the Ignite gospel aware that you are selling something that will waist that persons time and money then you may be able to do this otherwise it’s best to leave this opportunity alone. Stream Energy is the channel that deals directly with the public, Ignite Energy is the MLM division that provides the opportunity available to independent representatives.
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20 users commented in " Ignite Energy, the Opportunity Of A Lifetime Or Maybe Not? "
Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackUnlike Ignite our startup fee is only $99.95 and right now its only $49.95( Limited Time) The emphasis is on the residual and building a customer base.
Ignite pays .50 Cents per month residual to a Sales Representative that signs a personal residential customer even if that customer were to use 2000 kilowatts of electricity
per month. Our company would pay $6.00 per month for that same customer with that 2000 kilowatt usage.
We are currently doing business in Texas and will be in New York the first quarter of 2008.
We are able to provide service to commercial and residential customers.We will accept new service, apartments, no minimum requirements for businesses which makes us attractive for the small business owners.
Contact me if you are serious.
I am one of the Founders.
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I think the NetWORK marketing industry has a bad name as people who get involved think they are joining a get rich quick scheme that requires no work.
The reason the top earners make so much money is they work harder than anyone else to establish their business.
I would tell anyone that is thinking of signing up for Ignite not to get in it unless they are going to committ to doing the minimum required to qualify for all levels of payment. If they don’t, they only have themselves to blame.
You can’t knock the people that are making money because the people who don’t make money or think they got scammed didn’t WORK.
The bulk of revenue that most MLM make are form the sign up fee and not from the products or services they sell. This is why most reps that concentrated on selling and not recruiting ends up disillutioned and quit. The Top Dogs does not care if you quit because the residual income that you left will go upline and ends up in their pocket, one way or the other.
Yes, this is a great opportunity to make money, but at whose expense. If you want to make money the hard way, selling their products, then be prepared to work hard and long with no benefits, vacation or sick time. The easier way is recruiting. Think about that carefully. Do you smell a fish?
Learn to ask the question; “Where is the money coming from”? Do not take their word for it. Do the math yourself and see if what they are telling you make sense. If possible, get an official revenue report from the government. Then you’ll know exactly where the money is coming from and what you’re getting in to. Do not believe the report they flash on their power point presentations, maybe true, but I would doubt it very much. Read the fine prints.
Chances are, when you ask these many questions, they will stop recruiting you. They don’t want people that ask too many questions. They just want people to buy in to their phylosophy and do as they do. Have you heard of the “Lemmings”.
It is noteworthy that the reason that we all pay to be a part of the game (up front or monthly, depending on the MLM) is because if we do not pay a cost, then where does the money that we want to be the recipient of come from?
Also, the reason that Ignite doesn’t use advertising instead of through referal is because they DON’T HAVE TO! (lol)
Why would they? They offer an excellent product (Cheap Energy) and that is something hard to refuse. And with no advertising division? That’s one place that our profit can come from; it frees up more money to work with at that point.
Triumphant Success said exactly what his pyramid buddies told him to say. Believe it IF you like getting the shaft.
(Wayne) “Believe it IF you like getting the shaft.”
Apparently this is supposed to mean that what I said isn’t true. That you’d be getting the ’shaft’ if you listen to my lies.
Wayne, it is obvious to me now that I have been wasting my time responding to your postings. The things that you say have no basis on truth, NOR do you actually listen to other people’s statements.
If you even paid a small amount of attention to my previous posting, you would see that I admitted that a large portion of our income in MLM’s is from a monthly or upfront payment to become a part of the company. In other words, yes you pay to play.
But in your stupor, you didn’t even catch that part, and you just spat it out that I’m a liar and for no one to listen to me.
HA! Your debating skills insult my sensibility and I am embarrassed to have wasted so much time responding to your postings.
I have seen firsthand what a pyramid game is about. I believe Wayne. Triumphant Success is a Triumphant scammer.
Triumph: What makes you think I care what you think of my debating skills. I could care less. I am just trying to raise awareness of the FACT that a pyramid is a pyramid is a pyramid. It doesn’t matter that you have a product. That is just a cover. PYRAMID GAMES ARE ILLEGAL. Call you local bunco squad and Ask this specific question “Is a Pyramid game an ILLEGAL undertaking”? They will tell you YES> The fact that you derive MOST of your income from recruitment of suckers to play the pyramid makes it a pyramid. I say it again. Your “product” is information. Information that I am willing to GIVE AWAY. So & So will be a better Energy Plan for you if you switch and you can switch for FREE.
ANYONE who wants to choose their own Energy, Click my name, go to the site, click compare and use the information to make your own choice of Electricity. Don’t rely on these MLM monsters to do it for you.
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I love a good debate, but there isn’t going to be one here…
Oh well.
For any interested, see Ambit Energy Scam to see Wayne and Johnny ripped to shreds by me and my buddies, cause we already did it over there, we don’t have to waste our time doing it over here.
Bottom line is this… (to sum it up)
A pyramid is illegal in the state of Texas.
Ambit and Ignite are currently flourishing as companies.
Ambit and Ignite do not fit the definition of a pyramid, which has been defined numerous times for the I’m Addicted To Ducks Anonymous (IATDA) club (Wayne and Johnny), which explains why they are still alive and well and expanding.
Thus, Ambit and Ignite are not pyramids. They have both been alive for many years. Any legal action that would have been taken would have been enforced long ago.
Nothing.
Just hot air coming from the general direction of the IATDA club.
Triumphant,
We are on the same side & I find it interesting that Wayne & Johnny couldn’t find anything to say about my comments. Funny how ignorance can run amuck & then just disappear.
Just a little history as I’ve heard it, Ambit is about half as old as Ignite & has only around 60,000 customers compared to Ignite’s 400,000. My information is that Ambit copied nearly letter for letter the Ignite setup then got into some trouble & had to regroup. I also heard they lost their license in Illinois & are in the process of, or just got it back.
We both know how the “they said” stuff goes around. At any rate, unless Wayne & Johnny are doing some reasearch in order to have an intelligent rebuttle, I guess we’ve heard the last from them.
By the way, I cannot find anywhere in this article who actually wrote it. I think that person also needs some education before writing something about which they obviously know nothing.
I was not familiar with this sight until a friend sent it to me & I don’t know if I could find it again if I lost the link he sent. Any info is appreciated. Awaiting your reply.
Ok, I have a friend trying to get me to do ignite in Georgia. I pulled the income reports and they speak for themselves, it is not feesable to do this. Pull the reports from 07 and 06 and take a look at who makes the money and the percentages. I am a Sr. Loan Officer and a numbers girl so I know my stuff. Its in black and white, go look at it for yourself.
Numbers girl where do you get the 07 and 06 reports you referred to. I thought ignite just entered Georgia gas market.
I am looking at Ignite and trying to understand
if it is feasible. You have to go 5 levels to get any kind of residual income that you can see. My tired brain questions the ability to pay out at all levels as they say they do but wasn’t sure I was doing correctly. They get 20.00 per month for the associates web site. What does it cost to maintain generic web sites?
One question is if you sign up as a customer to Ignite (Stream Energy) Will you save money on your monthly bill? They seem to be competitive.
Second question if you can save someone money by reducing their energy bill what is wrong with getting a commission or being paid for obtaining that customer?
I have also been approached in GA. What info did you find? How can I pull a report of some financials, they are a private company.
I don’t understand the negativity in regards to MLM.I am going to follow Warren Buffett!! He believes in MLM!!!! Pretty smart? Or should I listen to the EXCUSE man? If he had residual income coming into his or her bank account every month, would their be this non-sense? Look I just lost a fortune in Real Estate! Scam?? Just the Tuition I needed to pay,to START my next venture!!!!!!
See YOU at the TOP!!!
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I also don’t understand the negativity. I have signed up as a Sales Associate. I am a hard work worker. I feel that the sign-up fee and website fee is far less that what I spent this weekend out eating food that I don’t need or enjoy and buying clothes that I don’t also need. At least I am investing in something that will give me a return on my investments.
I am on the “Band Wagon”.
I am looking at a way where I can retire and selling Stream Energy through Ignite could be that door that I need to open. Could you send me information as to how I can be one of your players in this program. I am a retired person and used to sell insurance for over 40 years, I can be a great asset in your organization.
Ambit is an MLM where less than one tenth of one percent ever make any serious dough. They even publish that in their literature. They charge almost $400.00 to sign up and basically pay you with your own money for the first couple months untill you have signed up all your friends and family and paid ambit an additional $20.00 per month for your web site. Then you realize you are not the one in 10,000 who are going make top money in this hoke deal but they now have more customers and you have about half your original $400.00 back in so called commissions. It is a waste of your time and money, but a good scam for them.
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